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zoeyk

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Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 10, 2008, 11:55 PM
















"the wedge opening"
the basplund offence ~Vs~ the (mark mammel)mmammel defence 1997




the izatech defence & the happy offence
first played by ("happy" player one) ~Vs~ ("izatech" player two) in 2000




the mike321 defence & the seven offence
first played by ("s3v3n" player one) ~Vs~ ("jayhawklov" Player two) in 2005




first played by ("xseptional" Player one) ~Vs~ ("Luvnthots" Player two) in 2001





























































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Re: "Openings library" 24 of the K9's 2nds and white's 3rds
Posted: Sep 11, 2008, 4:31 PM

Nice to have this, I hope perhaps we can get some sorting in terms of the value or potential of the second moves. Also, 1 question: I think the db only shows 20 of these- are the others from other sites, from rotations, possibilities that you've come up with, or...?

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Re: "Openings library" 24 of the K9's 2nds and white's 3rds
Posted: Sep 11, 2008, 4:57 PM

no they are all in the data base,.. and in my opinion the best but not limited to as far as white 3rds to respond.
i will be adding more openings in time.

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Posted: Sep 13, 2008, 7:30 AM

At least some of these openings (Wedge opening, for instance) go back to pre-internet days, of course. In the 1984 newsletter article on the hammer, the Wedge is referred to as "the popular 'Wedge' opening".

Also, if we consider openings which resolve into a K9 opening position after two moves, we can come up with some more opening lines which have been played, especially if board translations are factored in as similar enough to count. Not that any of them will necessarily be as good as the ones listed above.





























and then boards like the following ones could be seen as translations of the basic position:



which I think would play out in a similar manner to this, although the board edges could potentially make a difference for some translations:



similarly,




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Posted: Sep 13, 2008, 7:42 AM

cool thanks,..feel free to correct my data,..as im mainly going on the data base. any information will be greatly appreciated.

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Posted: Sep 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

your 5th and 13th board opening youll notice i had in there already.

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Posted: Sep 13, 2008, 10:03 AM

Those must have been a couple which didn't show up in my db search on K9. There are a few more possibilities that I didn't get among the above boards- some of them the db didn't want to call up and others were pretty marginal- a single game with a far out opening and such...

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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 16, 2008, 6:42 AM

zoeyk - Have you seen Mark Mammel-Stepanov article about oppenings ?

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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 16, 2008, 9:01 AM

no i havn't,.. can you give me a link to view this?

thank you
~zoey

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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 17, 2008, 3:39 PM

Hey Zoey,

Awesome idea!!! Thanks for sharing, your so nice...no matter what they say! lol!!!

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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 19, 2008, 11:37 AM

http://mysite.verizon.net/msmammek/pobk.zip


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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 19, 2008, 2:34 PM

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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 20, 2008, 2:35 AM

is there any way to put numbers on the stones, like 1 , 2, 3 ?

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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 26, 2008, 7:05 PM

To make diagrams for Word like it is in this file - you need to makw .wmf file with picture and insert it to Word file.
We have some software for Renju which able to make diagram and save this in .wmf files

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Re: Zoeyk's Opening Library
Posted: Sep 26, 2008, 7:05 PM

To make diagrams for Word like it is in this file - you need to make .wmf file with picture and insert it to Word file.
We have some software for Renju which able to make diagram and save this in .wmf files


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