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Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 9, 2008, 5:13 AM
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up2ng
Re: Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 2, 2008, 4:13 PM
Pente, yes. Ninuki, no. I cap across your imperfect 5 at M12 and you can't avoid a fifth cap after that, regardless of your next turn. Returning to N12 after my cap looks like the only way white could win it to me...
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Re: Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 3, 2008, 8:59 AM
errr, what is that supposed to mean? i didn't talk down on you for not playing alot of recorded games btw,.. just observing that you seem to maybe have another handle you go by. and i was inquiring as to who else you went by if any. i was not throwing insults nor was i trying to make my self look better than you. im just a curious one.
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Re: Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 3, 2008, 9:53 AM
" do you think that after M12 a move at J11 is still forbidden?
btw we discuss easy 3-moves win already all week lol why not to take your old Pente board, set up that position..."
1.) Why do you think that I didn't set the position up on a board? 2.) If you'd explained your winning scenario point by point instead of just saying Pente, we wouldn't have spent a week going back and forth about what was an easy 3-moves win (to you).
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Re: Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 4, 2008, 3:40 PM
well, here are two basic lines: (a) J8, H7, N12, L14, L12, M12, J11 -- 5 captures, since no 2x3 at J11 (b) J8, H7, N12, L12, H11, L14, J11 -- the same thing
so it is a win for P1 though at first i was mistaken, thinking that overline is a win in ninuki.
Re: Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 4, 2008, 3:46 PM
what else? i have a feeling that you didnt even look at my figures. you... you and zoeyk are both gamblers. for me, im a bookworm, spending hours studying positions and reading about Pente. that is the difference between you and me.
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Re: Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 5, 2008, 10:56 AM
pente_fan; >you and zoeyk are both gamblers. for me, im a bookworm, spending hours studying positions and reading about Pente. that is the difference between you and me.
lmao..
are you implying i don't spend hours studying pente?
i know for sure "some one" can validate the fact that i study alot.
i play and study, thanks.
Ps. matter of fact,..i challenge you to some turn based,..
Bring it.
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Re: Ninuki- a tough game to learn - wins in renju, boat, and pente but lost
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Nov 6, 2008, 3:46 AM
> I'm not an expert in Ninuki so maybe someone can > shoot this idea down: > > Regarding the board position posted by pente_fan on > October 30, 2008 at 5:20AM, white has just played > J8... > > What does white do if black responds now with O14*?
well, once again, I've laid the position out on the board and I see what looks like a win for black, as up2ng hypothesizes, but since I'm still sticking with my original claim that ninuki is a tough game to learn and I don't claim to have learned it, I'll be interested to see whether anyone can shoot down the newly proposed reply to J8 of O14*. Anyone?
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