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watsu

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Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Dec 28, 2019, 6:10 AM

Who is winning here, and how does play proceed optimally for the next three or four moves by each player? H/T to Karlw for this position.

Retired from TB Pente, but still playing live games & exploring variants like D, poof and boat

homebrew

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Re: Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Dec 28, 2019, 12:07 PM

Hey, this game looks familiar

I think he should have eventually moved K11 instead of O7 in response to my L10

homebrew

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Re: Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Dec 28, 2019, 12:14 PM

OK, I just noticed the grid is different here than the original game. That would mean that in response to my K13, he should have eventually moved J14 instead of N10.

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watsu

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Re: Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Dec 28, 2019, 2:22 PM

He had another option besides either J14 or N10, both of which lose for him.

Message was edited by: watsu at Dec 28, 2019 2:24 PM

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tin_can

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Re: Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Jan 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

For those wanting to follow along at home...
https://pente.org/gameServer/viewLiveGame?mobile&g=50000000346443

... Nevermind, I'm guessing we are trying to find the win for white...

Message was edited by: tin_can at Jan 2, 2020 11:51 PM

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karlw

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Re: Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Jan 3, 2020, 12:13 AM

Hint: the crucial move for White is after 15...K13 16 F13 E13 17 N13 K13.

The best defense is a good offense...

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.

tin_can

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Re: Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Jan 3, 2020, 12:18 AM

Black K13, White N13 (capturing K13 & L13) - Captures B4 W4
Black K13, White K9 (ha ha! Took a while to find that!)
This creates a tria for white and pretty much a kill for black via captures...

karlw

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Re: Who is winning? h/t to Karlw
Posted: Jan 3, 2020, 12:48 AM

Correct: K9 (or N12) is the winning idea. If Black tries to win with N10, then White just barely wins by 5 caps. And if Black tries the other side with J14, then caps on J16 and N12 create a stretch 4 for White!

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.

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