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watsu

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Re: Early 2023 tournaments restriction to established players?
Posted: Mar 7, 2025, 12:40 PM

@ owen_ - this is a fair enough point as to what you could do in order to enter the amateur tournament. However, if you had your sights set on entering the Masters tournament instead, you could easily collaborate with someone who set up a throwaway account and resigned 19 sets to you. Or slightly more subtly, you could challenge me to a couple of sets, I could throw them quickly and subtly (established players lose few if any points to provisional players in their first few sets) and then have a throwaway account resign 17 games to you. You could enter as the top seeded Master and have easy early rounds. Such things are possible, but generally not done subtly and are pretty obvious, often leading to being banned from participating in a tournament or other consequences.

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ed209uardo

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Re: Early 2023 tournaments restriction to established players?
Posted: Mar 7, 2025, 3:22 PM

@owen_, you still have 6 days. Get on King of the Hill for turn-based Pente and challenge everyone you can, then start public invitations (1 or 2 days per turn) for the balance of games you need to get to 20. I'll play you. I tend to move multiple times per day. Oncce you get to the deadline, you can decide if you want to resign a bunch of games or just wait until the next tournament.

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owen_

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Re: Early 2023 tournaments restriction to established players?
Posted: Mar 7, 2025, 3:54 PM

Both ways are inappropriate for me. I can't play fast games, I'm a perfectionist and I want to play my best in every single game, so playing 20 sets simultaneously and fast is not my way.

Resigning 20 sets also, of course, as well as playing with smb who is OK with resigning himself. It's not a sportive way, you know.

So, well, will wait for the next one, if any.

But anyway my point is that 20 sets played in a particular game is excessive. 20 sets played total on the server should be better for both new players (if any) and those old site members who want to try new games.

watsu

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Re: Early 2023 tournaments restriction to established players?
Posted: Mar 7, 2025, 6:10 PM

"It's not a sportive way, you know."
Just to be clear, I wasn't advocating for such a workaround. It's the kind of thing I see little kids try on vint.ee sometimes, until their ratings get reset to 1400, anyway. I'd like to see you and other interested players be able to participate in Pente or other tournaments. The games here are not so different from each other that one can't read a general potential skill level at connect6 or Pente from an established gomoku rating, for example. I think 5 sets of a variant should be a sufficient bar for all the tournaments, including the Pente tournaments, provided a player has an established rating with 20 sets in some game here - Go, gomoku, C6, Swap DK Pente, or whatever. The established rating in one game shows that the player is less likely to lose interest in the site in the middle of a tournament and never return. That's just my two cents on the topic, though.
Also, if things do get adjusted for this tournament, please play in Masters Pente. No offense to those under 1800 in Pente, but they wouldn't provide you with any challenge.

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