Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 1, 2008, 1:10 AM
Valid concern, Kris, but let's not start a riot against all noobs (myself included among them). Some just don't know better, and though it may require more patience (and typing) I know some noobs would appreciate polite guidance on etiquette and expections from the established social order here at a fine Pente site.
Of course, your concern would be moot if only you would quit losing to noobs.
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Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 3, 2008, 8:38 PM
Nope. I never feel taken for points.
I feel that I learn something in every game, win or lose. I am more than willing to offer up a few points for the experience and on the flip side am more than willing to take a few points as well. haha
Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 6, 2008, 4:58 AM
I think a concern here is that some 'newbies' are not actually newbies in that they may seem to be that by having a low rating, but then when they play you their real skill comes to the front by snatching more points from you than they should have based upon their rating as apposed to their actual skill.
I have actually seen a newb play a few sets vs a moderately skilled player with a skill level that properly depicted their low rating. Then they drew me in to play them, and at that point revealed a vastly superior skill to the skill they had just displayed in prior sets with other players. There is a golfing term for this kind of play called ‘sandbagging.’
From my perspective I will play openings that offer lesser skilled or newer players a more fundamental or basic approach type opening. Such openings are almost always easier to defeat by experienced or expert players. By sandbagging the pseudo-newb can lure me into a situation I would not place myself into with someone I knew to be experienced. This has happened to me on multiple occasions, and has caused me to develop a type of paranoia when I face new players.
Whoever you are, you can bite my hairy arrrsse! Lol. You’re all evil tricksters trying to lure the lion by playing the lamb. If you want the bragging rites to say that you whipped my arse, then stand up and whip it straight up. Why try to ruse me into a trap?
I love playing newbies in a way that helps them learn, but u punks are fowling my trust of every newby that comes along.
Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 6, 2008, 5:23 AM
if you are worried about experienced players pretending to be noobs than i recommend only playing unrated games against provisional players
no one is going to act like they suck long enough to get a low rating with over 20 games just to trick you into giving them a chance at winning
your rating is high enough that it wouldn't go up if you beat a provisional player anyway
and if you do lose an unrated match to a noob you can always use the excuse that you let them win to show them a set up and teach them something, and give that as your reason for playing unrated
Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 6, 2008, 5:30 AM
Right and wrong! It's not about points, but i have indeed been suckered by sandbaggers on multiple occasions, even though i still won on most of those occasions.
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Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 6, 2008, 4:38 PM
richard, I can understand your frustration about this.
Just a quick comment that at least with set-based ratings (which are coming) it will be a little harder to "sandbag" a player with the technique you describe, especially if you play as player 2 for the first game of the set.
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Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 9, 2008, 1:02 AM
Me thinks Richard is just afraid to bring his A game against newbies because he is worried that others might study his moves in the game database and use it against him later. My advice is to bring the heat against all provisional newbies because they may not always be who the pretend to be. Arrrrrghh!
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Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 10, 2008, 2:57 PM
Kris, I never feel that way. My rating is just a number and while it may have some relevance in measuring my skill at Pente its really no big deal. I've beaten some pretty highly ranked players, and been beaten by genuine noobs, (yourself included when you first started! Maybe I don't take it as seriously as some others here but hey, its just a game. I'm not going to work at it; I do it for fun. Also I think its good for my brain to excercise it a little, but when it stops being fun, I'll stop playing.
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Re: Ever feel taken for points
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Nov 11, 2008, 8:19 PM
Black lab your so cool!!! You are so right on target!! A game is for fun and fun and fun!! And by the way your one of my favorites to play!! Thanx, Buddy
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