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sandsquish

Posts: 34
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Denver
Pente Problem
Posted: Nov 21, 2000, 7:09 AM

Hi,

I found this on Pierre-Nicolas
Lapointe's site and was wondering if anyone had worked it
out yet. (You need a monospaced type to read the
board, if that's possible here.)

. . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . x x
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. x x
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . .
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. . . . : . . . . . : .
. . .
. . . . . . o . . . . . . . .
. . . .
. x . . . . . . . . .
. . x . x . o O . . . . .
. .
. . . o x x x . . . . . . . .
. . . . o
. x x . . . . . . .
. . . . O o x o . . : . . .
.
. . o . o . o . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . x
. . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . o
o
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . o o

Xs to
move and win in three.

- Walt



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thundr007

Posts: 6
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Decatur, AL
Age: 35
Re: Pente Problem
Posted: Nov 21, 2000, 10:03 AM

walt,
unless i am missing something, this is
pretty easy.

first lay out a board for
coordinates a through 0 on the bottom going left to right. 1
through 15 on left side going up.

pluggin in all
of the pieces it would be like this

x has
pieces on h3,g5,g6,h6,e7,f7,g7,c8,e8,f9
o has pieced
on c4,e4,g4,f5,h5,e6,d7,g8,g10


here are
the moves as i see it.
x - i7
o - h7
x -
f4
o - j8
x - e2 for win

the only problem i
see with the board is that x already has 10 pieces
and o has only 9. even though they have both taken 2
pair each. i do not think that this adds up, so in my
eyes they should each have only 9 pieces or if we keep
the board the same then it is o's turn to move as it
sits now.
does anyone else have the same view i do?



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sandsquish

Posts: 34
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Denver
Re: Pente Problem
Posted: Nov 21, 2000, 1:32 PM

The capital Os are Os that sit on a marked
intersection (of a 15x15 board). So, both 0 and L3D3 are
occupied, giving O 11 stones on the board and X 10 stones.


I didn't mean to cause any confusion, but I
don't think that changes your solution anyway.


Incidently, I remember seeing Pente problems with strange
numbers of stones on the board in one of Braunlich's
books.

- Walt



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thundr007

Posts: 6
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Decatur, AL
Age: 35
Re: Pente Problem
Posted: Nov 21, 2000, 2:17 PM

Walt,
thanks for clarifying the capital O's
for me. You are right in that it does not change my
play at all. I would still play it out the same.
So
where did you find this puzzle at anyway?
Steve



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sandsquish

Posts: 34
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Denver
Re: Pente Problem
Posted: Nov 21, 2000, 11:17 PM

It's at
http://jesweb.free.fr/critique/pente/pente.html

It's
the only Pente problem I could find
on the Web. This seems like a good forum for
problems and annotated games, but I don't think I have
enough experience to write them myself.

- Walt



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sjustice

Posts: 72
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: pensacola
Age: 40
Home page
Re: Pente Problem
Posted: Nov 22, 2000, 11:06 AM

There Are No Snakes in Ireland
by Scott
Justice
Summer 1983
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Pente in 6
moves.
Captures: o has 0
x has 0

In each Pente
problem, White (o in this case) moves first and your task
is to find the one and only way for White to win in
the stipulated number of moves, even against the most
stubborn defense by Black (x).

In reference to an
earlier observation, a Pente problem does not have to
arise out of a possible game, so it does not have to
have equal stones.

Mark Mammel's site has some
of the Pente problems from the old newsletters.



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sjustice

Posts: 72
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: pensacola
Age: 40
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Re: Pente Problem
Posted: Nov 22, 2000, 11:11 AM

That problem gets even harder when it does not line up! %^)
Here's the
coordinates of the stones for
clarification:
L2U5,R1U2,R4U4,R5U5
L4D5,L2D3,R3D5,R4D6
Enjoy,
Scott



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mmammel

Posts: 260
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Maryland
Age: 53
Home page
Re: Pente Problem // new gomoku program
Posted: Nov 22, 2000, 11:32 AM

Scott's problem is a little tougher! As he
mentioned you can download other puzzles from the US Pente
Assoc. on my website for use with my program. Once you
have my Pente program, download puzzles.zip which
contains about 20 puzzles and a text file with
instructions.

New on my website is my Windows version of Gomoku /
Renju (called
NOESIS)

http://users.erols.com/msmammel/marksfiv.html

-Mark



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afortune

Posts: 94
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
Unclear clarification
Posted: Nov 23, 2000, 3:22 AM

The problem gets harder still when you're not sure which stones are White and
which Black. Which is which, Scott?

:-P

Aaron



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sjustice

Posts: 72
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: pensacola
Age: 40
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Re: Unclear clarification
Posted: Nov 23, 2000, 5:37 AM

They are all white. !^)



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