Match set for Thursday September 25th 2008 at 7pm Pacific Standard Time.
all players are welcome to spectate.
hope to see you all there.
as usual Bring Your Own Beer!
Set#1 = Draw (karl's Black had more moves)
ok so the Match #2 is still going, as we have tied on the first set. in reviewing the games ide say that karlw came through with a stronger black then i did,..we will see how set #2 of match #2 goes. Set #2 starts today friday at 11 pm Pst. it will be a late event. so all night owls are welcome to attend
Ok so the Match #2 is still going after a total of 3 tied sets (6 games). the new games played have been updated below in this post.
~ 4TH Set ~ "they are 7th and 8th boards down from the top in this post" ok so now for the 4th set (Tied) This time we tied with Our Blacks.
#5th set of Match #2 -(Tied) next set is Oct 23rd 7-9 ish PST time.
6th set (Tied)
7th set = Zoeyk sweeps the set - Match winner is Zoeyk
set 1 game 1
set 1 game 2
Set #2 of Match 2 (Tied set)
Game 1 of 2
Game 2 of 2
Set #3 of Match 2 (Tied set)
Game 1 of 2
Game 2 of 2
~ 4TH Set ~ ok so now for the 4th set (Tied) This time we tied with Our Blacks.
Game (1 of 2) of (4th set) of (Match #2)
Game (2 of 2) of (4th set) of (Match #2)
#5th set of Match #2 -(Tied)
#6th set of Match #2 - (Tied)
game 1 of 6th set
game 2 of 6th set
#7th set of Match #2 - ( Zoeyk is the winner )
game 1 of 7th set
game 2 of 7th set
~zoeyk
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compare this game of what i did in the match and what mersenne did after with karl as a variation. nice catch mers! she changed the strech on the 8th move, (key) and at the time i dunno,.. it just looked different to me is all i can say.
and the 3rd game i will place is from 09/21/08 me vs mersenne, and the solution i had used for her line before. i did a different 4th as white.
note: the similarity of this compared to the "Hammer Opening" if you que it to the 7th move and or mersenne's 8th in regards to the first 2 games here.
My game.
Mersenne's varition
me vs mersenne
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Re: (Rematch) Match #2 Zoeyk ~vs~ Karlw
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Sep 30, 2008, 12:43 AM
Hey, this is a great feature to be able to analyze and discuss games played by some of the great players!
Some quick comments about the game labelled "Mersenne's Variation":
First, I really like the play style of black in this game. Very nice opening. Aggressive, good use of the pair in sacrificing an early capture to gain a more favorable line. I use this style often and I think that knowing how to do this properly is one of the skills that seperates experts from intermediate level players. Also, black's knowledge of shapes and keystone attacks to will her way into a "Hammer" position is important to note in this game. By the mid-game, it seems likely that white's opening 3rd move may not have been the strongest.
However, white could have still won this game by playing: 8. G8!
Review this variation and you will see that black ends up running out of threats and white "regains" the initiative.
The Hammer is a basic, yet complex position that should be studied in detail if one is to advance their skill in this game. There were some articles about the Hammer that were put out in the 80s and their analysis of this important position is very solid. While it is true in general that the one to control the handle of the Hammer has the upper hand, there are some specific exceptions to this rule -- as indicated in this very game. The exceptions have to do with precisely where the extra stones are located with respect to the Hammer shape, and sometimes white has just enough help to turn a losing position into a winning, albeit complex line.
Re: (Rematch) Match #2 Zoeyk ~vs~ Karlw
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Oct 1, 2008, 9:25 PM
In reference to Dean’s comments on the hammer, which is displayed by white’s 7th move; though this core group forms the hammer shape it is not the hammer, because of the presence of white’s two extra stones at E11 & G12. Those two stones alter the entire complexity of the game veering completely away from the stratagems of the classic ‘Hammer’
As to needing to understand The Hammer in order to develop skill in game strategy, I couldn’t agree more. I would like to see everyone here at any rating come up with a winning tactic with the hammer’s head in the classic arrangement. I actually don’t believe very many developed players understand the hammer very well. I know I have made mistakes with it. But I have seen it played out to an exquisite ending (not in the DB) making the handle sweat it out all the way. The Hammer is a great learning exercise for players serious about their game.
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Re: (Rematch) Match #2 Zoeyk ~vs~ Karlw
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Oct 3, 2008, 7:10 AM
Set 4 is done,..Tied,.. 15 moves each side exactly, in both games,...and we both won with our Blacks!,..interesting twist.
but ide say karl bested me with his blacks 4th of blocking instead of cap trade which he knew i was used to him doing,...his defending cap move was strong move in my opinion,..perhaps with more time a win will become apparent,.. but it got me good. and perhaps N8 was just a better move to do for whites 3rd in the end.
and my black winning was luck that he developed the wrong side mid way, he said. and after a unrated private game replaying it and canceling it, i agree that he was right.
fun stuff
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Re: (Rematch) Match #2 Zoeyk ~vs~ Karlw
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Oct 24, 2008, 9:05 AM
ok so we did a 6th set and a 7th set tonight. the Match has finally come to completion. Karl did not want to play the 7th set because he had plans, but was a good sport to play it through a second set. i did put a bit of pressure for him to do a second set tonight. which he didn't have a line prepared for once his first set's black failed. I dunno, any how I took the 7th set.
Match #1 total of one set = zoeyk winner
Match #2 total of seven sets = zoeyk winner
very good games karlw and i wish you well in our trials towards the #2 US player tittle.
see you on the board.
~Zoeyk
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